Women travelling to Egypt safely
  • I am really keen to take a vacation in Egypt, see the pyramids, and maybe cruise down the nile but have been warned that it is not advisable for a single American women. Is this right? I gather it is more related to unwanted attention from men - even I cover up - rather than anything terrorism linked. I'd like to go, but would welcome some reasurance that it is safe to travel to Egypt as a women! Thanks in advance. Sx
  • Hi, Im an English woman and am travelling to Egypt alone in early March. I have no reservations whatsoever as I visited twice with my (now ex) partner. There are plenty of tourists around and, the same as anywhere, if you use your common sense,t here will be no problem.
  • Suzie, I live in Egypt and the men here are very polite when you say you are not interested then they leave you alone. If you want I and my partner Mohamed can take you anywhere you like you can rent an apartment which is cheaper than staying in a hotel the food is reasonable and the people very nice if you want more information contact me at pamelaford04@aol.com

    Take no notice to scaremongers they are only jealous that they haven't got the conviction to come themselves

    Take Care

    Pam
  • Dears,
    I am an Egyptian guy, lived in egypt my entire life, my advise to you is to wear clothes that are not revealing and not wonder around in a non-croweded area, other than that you won't have to worry, the egyptian people are very friendly and helpful, if u need any help u would just howler and people will help u specially if you are in trouble, what u should worry about it is people trying to sell u stuff when u go to the touristic areas.

    other than that you will have a blast,

    if it was me, I wouldn't trust that Pam person though, if u need a place to stay find a hotel you can look at Shepherd hotel - down town it is cheap and you would find hotels starting 65$ till what ever you need, don't trust person, go for hotels and travel agents

    hope that was helpful.
  • Scot and frequent traveller/diver: I have to agree with Shady, Suzie don't trust that Pam item......stick to booked hotels. I would say dress "normally" but actually I would mean dress conservatively.
  • I am also a single young woman from Canada, and I am looking to travel in Egypt in November. I've heard from numerous people who have travelled there, that women must dress conservatively. That means that if you're going in the summer, and its hot, a tank top is ok, but always have a cover up or shall with you. Remember it's primarily an Islamic nation, therefore we must show repsect to their citizens.

    I have also heard that some of the men are forward with their comments and advances, but if you respond kindly, you should not have any problems. Although one couple who went, the woman mentioned that showing confidence wouldn't hurt. This makes it harder for them to keep bothering you.

    Other than that, I cannot wait to go. Its been a dream of mine to go. Hope you enjoy your trip!
  • Went there last week as a single woman and the unwanted attention ruined it. Every man that I met was perverted and they had no respect for western woman. I'm British from an Indian background, very confident and able to look after myslef. I couldn't go anywhere without being hassled and this was mainly by the resort staff. (the hotel I stayed in was a respectable 5 *) There were times when I was chased on the beach by men that wanted to talk to me even when I made it very clear that I was not interested. They DID NOT take no for an answer. Also when I decided to walk around with a frown on my face I was told that I am stuck up.

    I am well travelled and love new cultures but Egypt and the Egyption men have left a bad taste in my mouth and it it not a place I would go to again unless I was travelling with a very intimidating looking partner. There are NO Egyption women there at all and whilst their women are covered up and locked up at home back in their hometowns the men are openly chasing and harrassing western women.A disgusting culture!
  • Hi, we are two Scottish girls who travelled to Egypt in 2006. We found it could be intimidating at times, men would jump in front of you in the street giving inappropriate comments regardless of how conservatively dressed you were. However, this sort of attention certainly wouldn't have changed our minds about visiting. We would highly recommend you take a friend with you though, even with two of us there were times we wished we had a male accompanying us! The most important tip we can give is when visiting tourist-y places always take the guide recommended to you by hotel staff etc, they may cost you a bit in the short term but will keep away so much unwanted attention it is well worth it! Happy travels, Faith and Zoe.
  • Dear Del,
    I am Egyptian, and I would like to apologize on behalf of my "brothers" but I would also like to point out that what you have said is a little bit aggressive, you have to respect the culture of the country you are going to and not curse at it.

    I still think that you might have made a mistake about ur choice of clothing and would also like you to contact the hotel that you were in and report the staff members that made you feel uncomfortable. and also I will agree with Faith and Zoe, if you have a companion it would have been more easy for you, and I am sure you are very attractive to have ALL the men in Egypt interested in you :)

    sorry again and hope u decide to make another visit that is advised by people who know where to go, you would love Egypt, i suggest you give it another try
  • My name is Maree and I am from Australia...I recently took a trip to Thailand and had a ball, but besides that, I noticed all the locals would recognise you as an aussie straight away and hound you more than I think other races (maybe because we appear to be laid back or just dumb i dont know) ..Is this the case in Egypt? Also, is anyone able to recommend anywhere else to go in Africa, I have been told Swaziland and Botswana?? Maybe a little South of though?
    As well as the scenery I would also like to know what the night life is like given im 21 and want to experience both sides.

    So anyone who has travelled Africa I would love to hear from you

    Thanks Heaps
  • If you loved thailand and you're young and want to party, check out Dahab on Egypt's sinai peninsula.

    Another option, you WILL love in a BIG way is the Transkei region of South AFrica. This is the rural and traditional part between Port Elizabeth and Durban. Big hippy scene, stunning beaches, strong backpacker culture.

    If you do go to Egypt, hook up with some other travellers quickly. Will make life easier. Then hire a felucca and cruise down the Nile over a few days. Really great experience.
  • I'm a single, middle-aged woman, who is interested in combining a 2-3 week visit to Egypt (the Nile area) and Greece. Can anyone tell me the best time to travel to the region (weather-wise)? I like it warm, but not fall-down-dead hot! Also, any suggestions for budget-minded tour operators would be appreciated. And, thanks to all of you for your opinions and suggestions on single women travelling in the area. Keep the advice coming, please.
  • I am a single south african woman, looking to travel to egypt (red sea) in march. I'm a bit wary of the mixed comments, as i don't particularly want to be harrassed on my holiday. also - can anyone tell me if you are able to obtain a visa before you have actually booked your holiday?
  • Hello, I am thinking of visiting Egypt in a month but have got reservations as well, I have blonde hair and blue eyes and from an early age was told that it would be dangerous travelling to these sort of countries, especially on my own. A lot of my friends have visited Egypt and have loved it, but they have always been in couples. I would like to explore the area I stay at but think I would need to be with someone else and not alone. It is a shame that we have to have these fears, when all we want to do is widen our travelling experiences.
  • Ok, you may think I'm mad. I've "met" an Egyptian man..on facebook. We've been talking for 3 months, he's in his graduating year as a law student and we've really connected. I know it doesn't sound wise to fall in love with someone you've never but we've talked so much on the phone and internet and text messaging. I know you have to be wary and cautious but I do 100% believe him.
    Anyway, the reason for this messgae is...
    He has can't leave the country because he has to do the compulsory military service when he finishes studying, so the only way to meet is if I go to him.
    My dad is terrified of me going to Egypt, he makes it sound like a terrible country and of course doesn't believe the Egyptian man's story. He said if I go there it's only if he comes with me, and only to one of the all inclusive resorts (apparantly, according to my dad, most tourists don't leave the resorts because it's too dangerous). This man lives in Alexandria, is it a safe city to visit? Is my dad's comment of "i would handcuff myself to you" a little extreme? Is there really this much need to worry??????
    Me going out there at the moment is the only hope of seeing him and I would take all sensible precautions possible to avoid putting myself in danger.
    Pleeeease if anyone can offer any positive advice please do.
    x
  • I am in two minds about visiting Egypt, I really want to go there to relax and get some real hot sun and warm sea, maybe even fly to Cairo and see the pyramids, but the thought of being pulled about by people and hassled is so off-putting I keep holding back from booking my flights. Are there any female travellers that have been there that can advise me on the appropriate dress code, even if just relaxing near the hotel? Is it ok to wear a bikini top, with say, shorts or does it have to be longer trousers and a t'shirt? Is it ok to wear a bikini and go topless by the hotel pools? I just want to ensure being a single woman that I don't upset anyone by being too open.
  • Hey Viv,
    In reply to your comments, I would be a bit wary if I was you. Your are engaging with someone over the internet and it can always have some danger attached to it. If the man is a law student and passes out, surely he can visit you afterwards, not sure where you live though. If he has to do his service first then you wouldn't be able to see him for a long tome anyway. You shouldn't just go there on your own and go out and about, I think the resorts are the best place for visitors, especially for single females.

    Danni
  • hey for all i'm egyptian guy 20 years study information system i'm not gonna take so much about how much egypti is safe and how my folks are so friendly but i would say ask those guys that visited egypt and those who live in egypt how its here...thou i'm kinda into know,hang with forgion folks its really one of hobbies and so if there is someone comen to egypt and need partner i really would like to give my hand and time to hang around and have good,fun time,,,,,as everybody will say this not safe stay away of this guy bla bla well this my e-mail add me we can know each other first and may be we make it thru who know!
    mostly_free@hotmail my name is mahmoud btw
    take care all
  • for viv just follow you'r sense and dont judeg you'r man just beacuse other say and abt alx its safe city and beautiful one trust me you can enjoy the sea there and some awesome places but advice from me dont walk alone after 11 p.m you could meet some drunk guys or stoned ones
    take care and have fun egypt is good country and people so friendly and about what you hear that its dangerious etc trust me this is indivdual cases and that normal guss every country have its bad people as it have the goodie ones..and yea i'm egyptian and that's my view believe me or no its all back to you
  • I have visited Egypt on three occasions. Once with my husband travelling down the Nile, and twice with my sister and daughter. The last time my neice joined us. We stayed at Sharm. Both my daughter and neice are slim with blond hair. We found the Egyptian men polite, and yes they do hassle you to buy their wares, but they are only trying to make a living. A simple La (No) in a pleasant voice usually works. We went out to eat every night and used the local mini bus to travel to the old town. It was an experience all squashed in. Everyone was friendly pointing out landmarks on the way. The girls visited the night clubs with no problems. The security guards watched them back to the hotel ,reporting to me in the morning what time they had arrived back. I think it boils down to the fact that if you are pleasant to people they are pleasant in return.
    My friend and I are going to Sharm next week, can`t wait !!!
  • A note to some of the comments above: Keep in mind that mainland Egypt and the Sinai Peninsula are very different. The expected behaviour as well. Sinai is a resort tourist destination, so you will be surrounded by European tourists. The areas are also very different in what you can do. Sinai is for beach resorts, mainland Egypt is for the historical monuments and the Nile.
  • hi i was just readin other peoples comments and i wanted know is it ok to walk around in your bikini top and a short skirt?
    also what are the men like? i have heard they are all perverted.
    thank you in advance.
  • Yes. Bek. you can walk in the streets wearing bikini & short skirts but for entering the religious places like Churches or Mosques, you shouldnot be dressed like that as a respectable way to these places. I don't know where did you hear that about Egyptian Men. that's absolutely of wrong source.
  • Bek: I am not sure if your question is a serious or not, but in case it is, DO NOT walk the streets of any Egyptian city (I don't know about Sharm) wearing a bikini top and short skirts. It's nothing like Miami or the South of France, and you'll just attract the wrong (and possibly dangerous) kind of attention.
  • I agree with Erika. The more skin you show, the more attention you will attract. The men are not perverted, per se, but most will assume that if you wear bikini and short skirts you are inviting sexual advances.
  • HAVING TRAVELLED EGYPT MANY TIMES OVER 30 YEARS - BE WARNED A WOMEN ON THEIR OWN IS EASY PICKINGS AND DO NOT WALK AROUND HALF NAKED...THAT IS ASKING FOR IT
  • Myself and my friend (both 'mature' women) are going alone to Sharm next week.

    Many posting are a bit old.... Again, today (March 09) what is the best currency to take? How much do I tip and to whom/when? Finally, have I got it right: no shorts except on beach; wear something 'covering' from room to pool; cover arms always (but presumably not on beach... ) women alone beware...........????

    Don't want to pre-judge but some of these emails are a bit scary - particularly to someone who is disabled.

    Welcome comments

    Mary
  • A friend of mine went to Cairo last year and said some men offered her parents money for her sister. Were the men just messing with them because they were tourists or were they actually trying to buy her sister?
  • These comments are both helpful and scary. I'm going to Egypt at the end of march alone. I'm a 24, white, brown haired female. Is it possible to meet fellow travelers there? or will I be wandering the streets being harassed?

    Actually, I was wondering what the best way to get to dahab from cairo was. bus, train, plane, caravan?
  • I have just come back from Sharm on my own. I'm English. I take people as I find them and had a great time, found the men very polite, helpful and respectful. It was a few Italians that I found lech's. I did meet an Egyptian man working at my hotel I really like me a lot and talked about wanting to see me in the future and asked me to go over again and stay with him next time. He seemed pretty straight about what he wanted out of life and how the age difference doesn't mean anything to him, I am 15 years older but I really don't look it. His mother is 10 years older than his dad. I know that many people who stayed at this place over the years, have made good comments about him. I think he comes from a good family as one of his parents is a doctor. Everything is screaming at me that don't get involved with an Egyptian man and how can he feel so strongly after only knowing me one week. couldn't stand the hot weather in the summer over there even if I did think about staying there anyway- and I don't know him at all really but he is such a lovely person and I can't stop thinking about him and the fact that I would like to be with him and wonder about going over again but maybe not staying with him but finding somewhere else to stay and see how we feel then. Really I am quite worldly and not an idiot. Then I read things on net about some marrying canadian women to get over to Canada and I think maybe I should forget it. I've not gone away on my own for years and I'd probably meet someone wherever I went anyway. I do find English blokes a bit boring, no passion. Only had a kiss with the bloke but there was more passion in that than anything I've experienced in England for a long time. Not really sure what I'm asking here, but surely its like anywhere and there are some men that are untrustworthy and some not.

    Would appreciate some advice.
  • hi Viv just a bit of advice it is safer to go with another person to Alexandra as it is a very busy. I understand u wanting to meet up with a boy there but be aware of the dangers that r there when r on ur own there, it is not safe. I was there with my husband and found the place not only intimidating but the female waitress dont like western women so for u to go with the boy if u dont know his family,if u r in trouble there will be no help for u, the boy will leave u to fend for urself as justice is hard there. Thiefs galore there. BE VERY CAREFUL. Evie
  • i have a good hotel in the downtown cairo egypt my hotel name each way hostel all rooms with city view for single room 14$
    and for double room 18$
    the address 44 talaat harb street downtown cairo egypt front of el amrecain cafe eamil
    eachway-hostel@hotmail.com
    www.eachwayhostel.com
  • Reply for Guest April 15th
    I met an Egyptian man in February in Sharm and I have been back to see him, he is a lot younger than I am, but we look very good together - and the age difference does not matter to him. I think the age difference would be more likely to be commented upon in England than in Egypt. He wants nothing from me but to be with me - and I trust him. I love the people, they are very friendly, although the culture is sometimes a little hard to understand - but be warned - it is very frustrating trying to conduct a relationship between England and Egypt - the whole process is not for the faint hearted, just trying to carry on a conversation with bad and expensive telephone lines is a pain - especially if your guy does not speak good English. I am learning arabic and trying to understand his religion and he is getting better at English. So what I am trying to say is be a little wary, use common sense, but after all love is the same anywhere in the world, and I love my egyptian guy to bits !!
  • Well ladies - I have travelled in and around Cairo for work ten times in the last years. I am 68, white with brown hair, bright eyes, not overweight. I would find it very, very risky not to say stupid to start any "staying with" an Egyptian man in Egypt. And kisses in the corridors of a hotel would be ridiculous in a moslem country! This is something which would never, ever happen with a decent egyptian woman. Remember that it is a completely different culture where virginity, no sex before marriage, no going out with the other sex etc are items which are respected. Basically kissing and sex outside marriage can only be had with foreign women, who will not be taken seriously anyway. Don't be surprised if you get an infection of some kind or if you will be asked for money to help his family .
    Of course you should dress conservatively, no matter your age and no matter where you go. Don't walk around alone, they know exactly how easily we are attracted to their socalled passion and different, exotic way of life. Long skirts, cover your arms, no see-through tops etc and keep your money in a money belt.
    The Egytians are very friendly peaople, but don't ruin things for yourself by behaving as if you don't realise that you are in the moslem world. A French female tourist was just killed (in April) when fanatics threw a bomb at tourists in one of the big Mosques where I have walked so often.........
  • hi, can anyone give me some advice, i met an egyptian lawyer in egypt on the internet last year we have talked used cam to cam home phone texting i want to visit him very much he says he loves me and i love him its been a year now for us and we want to meet face to face very very soon now could someone give me some advice please we want to be together and get married.
  • Go to his town and make sure that you will be allowed to enter his home. See if he's married! Don't accept that you stay in a hotel and he'll come and visit you. In that way he can have at least one moslem wife and five children and you are sitting a hotel sobbing.
    And see if he's really a lawyer. It's big fun in moslem countries for men to keep western women interested by promising marriage etc. They are laughing their heads off when they describe to one another how naive these women are. But have a go and keep this forum informed.. Good luck.
  • thanks for your input, but this man has also asked that he will come to me also if i would perfere . I have mentioned to stay at a hotel there but he says he will have a place for me and him only to live and that he will marry me at the airport as soon as i arrive. he has mentioned to me about staying in his home . I have his street address and he has given me his passport # and has aked me so many times for me to have him checked out and he is not married and never been he is 27 years old.but he has give me all his private information. I have met his mom, brother, sister and their kids on cam on internet and have talked to his family. Ive heard a lot about egypt men but i hope he is realy true if not oh well i will get over it. what does anyone think.
  • i also want to visit egypt anyway even if this man is married so realy i still would love to visit this country and see some interesting sights. I will always wonder what if ya know if i dont go and visit and meet him. and see egypt ive always wanted to visit egypt for many years before i started talking to him since last year. so i guess i will find out pretty soon.
  • Hi! I too have fallen in love with an egyptian man, over the internet. I am hoping to go and see him very soon. he is in cairo, in school which is ending in 2 weeks he is hoping to come over here to be with me because we want to get married. egyptian men will make you fall in love with them because of the way they treat women. he says he loves me more then anything. and i believe him and trust him very much. he is teaching me arabic and his culture, and i am teaching him about mine. i couldnt imagine being without him in my life. if anybody is in love with an egyptian man please email me at laarmybrat82@yahoo.com. Thanks
  • Girls,
    when thinking of marrying an Egyptian, Muslim man you have to be aware that you will have to convert to Islam as well.

    now I don't know if these cyber love stories are true, but you have to be very careful not to get tricked into marrige just for someone to have a new passport so he can travel and leave Egypt.
  • Hi egypt love, i know how you feel i am very cautious about internet relationships my guy i love him so much. I will be going sometime soon to meet him in person. But is your guy so jealous and possessive of you coz mine sure is.

    Mine is also teaching me arabic and i teach him some english but mine is not in school. I want to visit egypt to and the sights for my vacation since i graduated from college last week, MY guy also lives in cairo i think we should chat sometime, my yahoo is snowangel0702@yahoo.com maybe they might know eachother. feel free to im me on messenger or in this forum. If you dont mind i will add you to my messenger list ok.
  • men are liars!
  • Hi shady, I value your input i know some about muslims and their ways. Mine does want to marry me but doesn't realy matter to him where we live. He loves egypt and i love the united states which if marriage was to take place then it i feel sooner or later would become an conflict between us , then maybe not i dont know. I know he does not seem to be using me to get in the states ive known him for a year now .

    And if he wanted to get in the states he could of many many times by other women or friends and i firmley believe he is a lawyer in cairo, he can have many things done.
    I just dont like the idea of getting married as soon as i get there at the airport where he will be waiting for me becoz of his beliefs he insists he will not have any relationship with me unless we are married I dont know i guess i will find out soon.
  • I love my Egyptian man with all my heart and could spend the rest of my life by his side always and be proud anywhere i go with him and we want kids together also. We love eachother nothing anyone else could say to me would not stop my heart from loving him and nothing could stop him from loving me. That would be something for me and him to decide its our life.
  • Angeleyes,
    don't get married in the airport :)

    however what you said is true about nothing happening unless you gus are married, and to get married you will have to covert to Islam, so if this what you are ready to do, then go ahead, if you think it's a dead end, the right thing to do is end it b4 it really starts.
  • Egyptian man , why do you say men are liars when you are a man or are you a gentelmen and dont want to see maybe women hurt. Im a very good woman ,i work hard take care of my home put myself through college and have an associates degree in law enforcement and im single im also not a young girl ive been married before. Ad very badly abused by my american husband and almost died many times by his hand. Im now divorced from him looking to have a life with a man that will treat me like a woman instead of a punchin bag.

    I dont suppose i should have posted this kind of personal info on here but i did.
  • I have a friend who initially met her current husband online. He is Egyptian, we are American. She flew to see him several times before they were married. They never had any "relations" before marriage as was with his Muslim religion. However, she still has never converted to Muslim and has no intentions of doing so. They have been living here in the US for 3 years now. She is a typical outspoken American woman. He doesn't control her, or act jealous. If anything, he treats her like a princess. She says "she is living the fairy tale". I have been talking to a friend of theirs who still lives in Egypt and he has treated me with nothing but respect and adoration. We have discussed the possibility of marriage in the future, but have agreed that I will always be a Christian, and will not always do as I am told, and will never cover my head or face. He does not have a problem with that. I think each person is an individual. I have friends here from Muslim countries. Some are jealous, protective, and controlling, and some are quite the opposite. You have to go with your instinct, but don't let sweet talk override your common sense. And absolutely, under no circumstances should you get married in the airport. Something is strange there. And I most certainly would not sign anything written in Arabic. Atleast not without having an American attorney translate and interpret it first. If your guy loves you, he will understand, and there will be no rush to do anything such as get married, or sign something immediately upon your arrival. It took my friend 1 1/2 years just to process the paperwork to get her husband her from Egypt. Something is wrong with the airport guy.
  • I think Sage77 here just put a guide line :) and I agree with every part, I am an Egyptian guy and what I hate is when a few uneducated selfish few just ruin it for all, and then Egyptians get a bad reputation.

    Egypt's constitution is mostly reflected upon with Islam, therefore there is no way a Christian lady could marry a Muslim guy (and vice versa) with out the christian party converting, unless they leave the country and get the paper work done else where.

    so I really hope those guys are true, and really i would like everthing to go well, Egyptians are very very kind people, loving and for Egyptians, family is one of the most important things.

    just keep us posted :) and like sage said, no signing NADA!! :) and an American attorny is a brilliant idea ;)

    good luck girls, wish you all the best.
  • Here are two great websites I just found regarding marriage & womens rights in Egypt.
    http://members.cox.net/ahmedheissa/egyptlaw.htm
    http://members.cox.net/ahmedheissa/marriage.htm

    I hope this helps!
  • Shady...if you truly were Egyptian, then you would no that what you are saying is VERY incorrect...a muslim man can marry a non muslim woman without her having to convert...forum members, the proof is out there, just google it! I know this for a fact, as does every single person who has lived on this side of the world for a while or a person who has some knowledge of Islam would know (not to mention that I know muslim men personally are married to non muslim women who have not converted). So please do not mislead or speak of issues that you are unsure of.

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